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		<title>By: Shawn Denkler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shawn Denkler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 03:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steven Mirassou asks for the thousandth time, what makes an aged wine inherently better than a wine that is meant to go 5-10?

Bottle Bouquet!

Unfortunately bottle bouquet does not develope in todays wines with high alcohol and high pH. This means almost no California wines made today will develope it. So for california wines an an aged wine IS NOT inherently better.

For the very few of us that like bottle bouquet better than tons of ripe fruit it is worth aging a wine for decades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven Mirassou asks for the thousandth time, what makes an aged wine inherently better than a wine that is meant to go 5-10?</p>
<p>Bottle Bouquet!</p>
<p>Unfortunately bottle bouquet does not develope in todays wines with high alcohol and high pH. This means almost no California wines made today will develope it. So for california wines an an aged wine IS NOT inherently better.</p>
<p>For the very few of us that like bottle bouquet better than tons of ripe fruit it is worth aging a wine for decades.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie Olken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie Olken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David--

Not be a smart ass, but only by way of communication, that wine is sweet.  don&#039;t know the RS, but a couple of vintages ago, we tested it at over 1%.

However, it is also well-balanced, nicely fruity and does have some complexity. Not my choice for seafood, except for the right dish, but chicken in sauces, some simple pork preparations, etc, many first courses go perfectly well with the wine, just as a slightly sweet Riesling would work in those settings. 

On the whole, I would choose a comparably structured Riesling, but your point, with which I agree, is that wine is not made by Commandment, and even sweet Chardonnay, made well, can be satisfying. I have chosen that wine from wine lists when it was the right choice for the setting and foods. 

I also chose it for a group of winewriters have an independent dinner simply to show that we need to rise above preconceptions and generalizations. However, I hasten to add that most CA Chards at its price point are bone dry and suitably endowed with acidity.

Care to say where you make wine?</description>
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<p>Not be a smart ass, but only by way of communication, that wine is sweet.  don&#8217;t know the RS, but a couple of vintages ago, we tested it at over 1%.</p>
<p>However, it is also well-balanced, nicely fruity and does have some complexity. Not my choice for seafood, except for the right dish, but chicken in sauces, some simple pork preparations, etc, many first courses go perfectly well with the wine, just as a slightly sweet Riesling would work in those settings. </p>
<p>On the whole, I would choose a comparably structured Riesling, but your point, with which I agree, is that wine is not made by Commandment, and even sweet Chardonnay, made well, can be satisfying. I have chosen that wine from wine lists when it was the right choice for the setting and foods. </p>
<p>I also chose it for a group of winewriters have an independent dinner simply to show that we need to rise above preconceptions and generalizations. However, I hasten to add that most CA Chards at its price point are bone dry and suitably endowed with acidity.</p>
<p>Care to say where you make wine?</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charlie,  Just a miscommunication.  No big deal.  I agree that we all tend to speak in generalities in wine and not all California wines(Chards included) should be painted with a soft and sweet brush.  I&#039;m a winemaker and I like to think that my wines shouldn&#039;t be lumped in with all of my piers in California. There is quite a diversity.

FYI I just had a Rombauer Chard at an event last week that was really nice and complex.  I would have been proud to have made that wine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie,  Just a miscommunication.  No big deal.  I agree that we all tend to speak in generalities in wine and not all California wines(Chards included) should be painted with a soft and sweet brush.  I&#8217;m a winemaker and I like to think that my wines shouldn&#8217;t be lumped in with all of my piers in California. There is quite a diversity.</p>
<p>FYI I just had a Rombauer Chard at an event last week that was really nice and complex.  I would have been proud to have made that wine.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie Olken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie Olken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, you wrote the following.  ----&gt; Maybe you will be lamenting the days when California wines were able to be drunk early and not have to be put away for years. You never know.  &lt;----

If it does not mean what I think it means, then my apologies. In any event, my comments about the large and varied stylistic choices available to drinkers of CA Chards do stand. I am happy to admit that I get pretty peeved when all CA Chards seemingly get lumped together and then abused for being too soft, sweet, oaky, buttery, popcorny, alcoholic, etc, etc. I know better, and it disappoints me that those misleading, misinformed generalizations persist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, you wrote the following.  &#8212;-&gt; Maybe you will be lamenting the days when California wines were able to be drunk early and not have to be put away for years. You never know.  &lt;&#8212;-</p>
<p>If it does not mean what I think it means, then my apologies. In any event, my comments about the large and varied stylistic choices available to drinkers of CA Chards do stand. I am happy to admit that I get pretty peeved when all CA Chards seemingly get lumped together and then abused for being too soft, sweet, oaky, buttery, popcorny, alcoholic, etc, etc. I know better, and it disappoints me that those misleading, misinformed generalizations persist.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charlie, I think you mistyped.  I never said anything about the quality Cal Chards or characterized them in any way.  I don&#039;t even drink Cal Chards.  Steve was the one talking about the softer Cal style. Bizzare comment on your part or you have the wrong name.  Check the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie, I think you mistyped.  I never said anything about the quality Cal Chards or characterized them in any way.  I don&#8217;t even drink Cal Chards.  Steve was the one talking about the softer Cal style. Bizzare comment on your part or you have the wrong name.  Check the post.</p>
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