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		<title>By: The Necessary Tension between Public Relations and Bloggers: A Second Look at the Conversation &#187; Wine Blogger</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Necessary Tension between Public Relations and Bloggers: A Second Look at the Conversation &#187; Wine Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] can fall into numerous traps that will in the long run hurt their credibility. He wrote in &#8220;When blogs go bad&#8220;: &#8220;The worst thing a wine blog can do is to shill, however inadvertently, for a winery [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] can fall into numerous traps that will in the long run hurt their credibility. He wrote in &#8220;When blogs go bad&#8220;: &#8220;The worst thing a wine blog can do is to shill, however inadvertently, for a winery [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Steve Heimoff Interview: Hippie to Oenophile &#124;</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Steve Heimoff Interview: Hippie to Oenophile &#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 12:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have been seized upon as elitist by some. This comment, in paticular, seemed to really resonate. &#8220;I’m not really worried that genuine wine writing is going away, because the cream will alwa... Can you or anyone really define “genuine wine [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] have been seized upon as elitist by some. This comment, in paticular, seemed to really resonate. &#8220;I’m not really worried that genuine wine writing is going away, because the cream will alwa&#8230; Can you or anyone really define “genuine wine [...]</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 02:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walt, it&#039;s been hard for me to respond to all the cross fire. Let me just say, thank you. I feel really bad at having stirred up such a stir. It was not my intention. I think there is blame on all sides. For myself, I am going to be more careful in the future before I criticize individual blogs. I still hope to contribute to the effort to lift blogdom to a higher level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walt, it&#8217;s been hard for me to respond to all the cross fire. Let me just say, thank you. I feel really bad at having stirred up such a stir. It was not my intention. I think there is blame on all sides. For myself, I am going to be more careful in the future before I criticize individual blogs. I still hope to contribute to the effort to lift blogdom to a higher level.</p>
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		<title>By: Walt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 02:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

I agree, perhaps a nice dry zin rose may be a better choice.  Do you know any good ones?  

But I think you have me wrong if you feel I&#039;m accusing you of &quot;painting all bloggers with the same brush.&quot;  I was simply defending someone I have follwed for the past few years that I feel was undeserving of some of your comments.

As I said before, many bloggers could and should be brought to task, I just don&#039;t feel Bill is one of them.  I also said above that I feel (and I hope you do) that Bill, by the tone of his own post here, is not one of the &quot;touchy lot&quot; you describe.  I think he simply pointed out a few facts, showed his appreciation to you as a blogger, and was nothing if not proffesional in his comments. In fact, I&#039;m sure Bill feels that he can learn from you just as I can (and have) learned from you both.  It just seems to me that the tone of your post doesn&#039;t encourage that.  Listening to Bill&#039;s podcast&#039;s would have me believe that he and I have very similar passion&#039;s and knowledge regarding wine.  Yet I can still pick up nuggets now and again that make him worth following, and have never found him to be a &quot;shill.&quot;

The revelation you feel that you can (and do) learn from bloggers is encouraging.

Now, do I follow your blog on a regular basis?  Guilty as charged.  I have checked in now and again, but perhaps your open mindedness (is that a word?) regarding this issue, your willingness to discuss it and your undenialable talent, allows that perhaps I should be follow you here on a more regular basis.  I hope you&#039;ll welcome me as a regular follower. As I previously stated, I&#039;ve been reading you in print for years and have always learned and appreciated you as a journalist and commentator.  

I guess, simply stated, that I saw this as you, as a titan of the genre, calling out one of the little guys that I felt didn&#039;t deserve it.  (Sorry about that misplace article.  See why I don&#039;t blog myself?)  And again, to your credit, I&#039;m sure I&#039;m one of the few here, or anywhere that knew who you were discussing as you didn&#039;t name names, a fact not lost on me.

Finally,  I apologize if my comment&#039;s felt like a personal attack on you. Let&#039;s make this water under the bridge and write off my comments as not so much an attack on you but as a defense of one of the little guy&#039;s that I think is fighting the good fight.  

Thanks Steve</description>
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<p>I agree, perhaps a nice dry zin rose may be a better choice.  Do you know any good ones?  </p>
<p>But I think you have me wrong if you feel I&#8217;m accusing you of &#8220;painting all bloggers with the same brush.&#8221;  I was simply defending someone I have follwed for the past few years that I feel was undeserving of some of your comments.</p>
<p>As I said before, many bloggers could and should be brought to task, I just don&#8217;t feel Bill is one of them.  I also said above that I feel (and I hope you do) that Bill, by the tone of his own post here, is not one of the &#8220;touchy lot&#8221; you describe.  I think he simply pointed out a few facts, showed his appreciation to you as a blogger, and was nothing if not proffesional in his comments. In fact, I&#8217;m sure Bill feels that he can learn from you just as I can (and have) learned from you both.  It just seems to me that the tone of your post doesn&#8217;t encourage that.  Listening to Bill&#8217;s podcast&#8217;s would have me believe that he and I have very similar passion&#8217;s and knowledge regarding wine.  Yet I can still pick up nuggets now and again that make him worth following, and have never found him to be a &#8220;shill.&#8221;</p>
<p>The revelation you feel that you can (and do) learn from bloggers is encouraging.</p>
<p>Now, do I follow your blog on a regular basis?  Guilty as charged.  I have checked in now and again, but perhaps your open mindedness (is that a word?) regarding this issue, your willingness to discuss it and your undenialable talent, allows that perhaps I should be follow you here on a more regular basis.  I hope you&#8217;ll welcome me as a regular follower. As I previously stated, I&#8217;ve been reading you in print for years and have always learned and appreciated you as a journalist and commentator.  </p>
<p>I guess, simply stated, that I saw this as you, as a titan of the genre, calling out one of the little guys that I felt didn&#8217;t deserve it.  (Sorry about that misplace article.  See why I don&#8217;t blog myself?)  And again, to your credit, I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;m one of the few here, or anywhere that knew who you were discussing as you didn&#8217;t name names, a fact not lost on me.</p>
<p>Finally,  I apologize if my comment&#8217;s felt like a personal attack on you. Let&#8217;s make this water under the bridge and write off my comments as not so much an attack on you but as a defense of one of the little guy&#8217;s that I think is fighting the good fight.  </p>
<p>Thanks Steve</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 02:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David: thank you.</description>
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