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	<title>Comments on: Paper-based wine magazines: We&#8217;re still standing</title>
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		<title>By: Michael Homula</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Homula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 14:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Morton,

You are spot on!  There are many wine bloggers who do not regularly post and their blogs sit idle for weeks or months with nothing.  They occassionally post a wine review (sadly only when they get a sample  in some cases) and occassionally post something else.  You are correct, seek out those that post regular, interesting, engaging and knowledgeable content and enjoy them.  The rest will, pun intended, die on the vine.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morton,</p>
<p>You are spot on!  There are many wine bloggers who do not regularly post and their blogs sit idle for weeks or months with nothing.  They occassionally post a wine review (sadly only when they get a sample  in some cases) and occassionally post something else.  You are correct, seek out those that post regular, interesting, engaging and knowledgeable content and enjoy them.  The rest will, pun intended, die on the vine.</p>
<p>Michael</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Dorenbush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Dorenbush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 01:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Steve. I&#039;m a huge fan of blogs, but I was never convinced that they were here as the replacement to print media. The two can both co-exist.

Print media is here to stay!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Steve. I&#8217;m a huge fan of blogs, but I was never convinced that they were here as the replacement to print media. The two can both co-exist.</p>
<p>Print media is here to stay!</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie Olken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie Olken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re Kindle:

I think Kindle will make print journalism stronger because it needs content, and print journalists have content to spare. All of the existing print journalists have data bases that run into the tens of thousands of reviews. Kindle is a natural for that--as is virtually any other form of moving reader of content from laptops to pdas. 

And there will be no way to get all that content unless you pay for it. I have no doubt that people and sources not now in traditional media will make inroads there as well, but Kindle ain&#039;t nothin without content. And valuable content that runs deep does not exist without lots and lots of hard work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re Kindle:</p>
<p>I think Kindle will make print journalism stronger because it needs content, and print journalists have content to spare. All of the existing print journalists have data bases that run into the tens of thousands of reviews. Kindle is a natural for that&#8211;as is virtually any other form of moving reader of content from laptops to pdas. </p>
<p>And there will be no way to get all that content unless you pay for it. I have no doubt that people and sources not now in traditional media will make inroads there as well, but Kindle ain&#8217;t nothin without content. And valuable content that runs deep does not exist without lots and lots of hard work.</p>
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		<title>By: Morton Leslie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morton Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been working my way through the pdf that lists all the attendees to the Bloggers Conference. Checking out their sites. It&#039;s easy with the links provided. I am about half way thru and so far it appears that most of the attendees were there to find out how to make an unsuccessful blog without any readership (or reason for any readership) into something.  I must say I was surprised at the low frequency of posts and the quality of what was posted on most of them. Some just have a landing page &quot;under construction.&quot; Maybe for many the conference was  a great wine vacation subsidized by the wine industry.

My overall conclusion is no surprise. It is all about the quality and quantity of content. People will flock to wherever they find it. So far, it&#039;s still mostly on paper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been working my way through the pdf that lists all the attendees to the Bloggers Conference. Checking out their sites. It&#8217;s easy with the links provided. I am about half way thru and so far it appears that most of the attendees were there to find out how to make an unsuccessful blog without any readership (or reason for any readership) into something.  I must say I was surprised at the low frequency of posts and the quality of what was posted on most of them. Some just have a landing page &#8220;under construction.&#8221; Maybe for many the conference was  a great wine vacation subsidized by the wine industry.</p>
<p>My overall conclusion is no surprise. It is all about the quality and quantity of content. People will flock to wherever they find it. So far, it&#8217;s still mostly on paper.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Homula</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Homula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom - There are a couple but, in the interest of protecting a couple of ventures I am involved in, I can&#039;t speak directly about them.  

I would suggest taking a look at the very best companies in America who are using social media successfully.  There is a great report on brand engagement here - http://www.engagementdb.com/Report.  Take a look at how they are executing in terms of brand engagement, using social media to attract talent etc. and how that is turning into revenue.  Then look at the professional organizations and industry specific online communities, information sources etc. who are talking about those companies and have utilized social media to create robust and lively communities of people sharing information and educating one another.  There is revenue being generated in these examples.  How is that converted to offline traditional media?  The answers are there to be found.

Roger is completely correct, the real pioneer is rarely the one who capitalizes to the maximum.  It is those that come later and find solutions to the vexing questions the pioneer was unable to answer who capitalize in such a way.  I would argue that the pioneers of online and social media have long since passed (yes, it hasn&#039;t been that long but the pioneering part is over) and it is up to us to figure it out.  

I do want to reiterate, I don&#039;t believe that traditional print media will go away EVER.  I merely suggest that in its current form it will not survive.  There will be some who figure it out and go in a different direction.  The rest may not make it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom &#8211; There are a couple but, in the interest of protecting a couple of ventures I am involved in, I can&#8217;t speak directly about them.  </p>
<p>I would suggest taking a look at the very best companies in America who are using social media successfully.  There is a great report on brand engagement here &#8211; <a href="http://www.engagementdb.com/Report" rel="nofollow">http://www.engagementdb.com/Report</a>.  Take a look at how they are executing in terms of brand engagement, using social media to attract talent etc. and how that is turning into revenue.  Then look at the professional organizations and industry specific online communities, information sources etc. who are talking about those companies and have utilized social media to create robust and lively communities of people sharing information and educating one another.  There is revenue being generated in these examples.  How is that converted to offline traditional media?  The answers are there to be found.</p>
<p>Roger is completely correct, the real pioneer is rarely the one who capitalizes to the maximum.  It is those that come later and find solutions to the vexing questions the pioneer was unable to answer who capitalize in such a way.  I would argue that the pioneers of online and social media have long since passed (yes, it hasn&#8217;t been that long but the pioneering part is over) and it is up to us to figure it out.  </p>
<p>I do want to reiterate, I don&#8217;t believe that traditional print media will go away EVER.  I merely suggest that in its current form it will not survive.  There will be some who figure it out and go in a different direction.  The rest may not make it.</p>
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