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		<title>By: wineconversation.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Interactive wine tasting</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 13:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes the rating comes first. I do the tasting note &quot;in my head,&quot; then compose it for the computer. A tasting note is like a haiku. It requires some effort to get clarity and precision into 30 or 40 words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes the rating comes first. I do the tasting note &#8220;in my head,&#8221; then compose it for the computer. A tasting note is like a haiku. It requires some effort to get clarity and precision into 30 or 40 words.</p>
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		<title>By: Tish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 13:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, you write: &quot;At some point, I hand-carry the glass with the wine to my computer, where I fill in the actual score and text into Wine Enthusiast’s database. This is the final act of the tasting process, where everything is confirmed. When I hit the “send” button, the review is transported to the magazine’s server, in New York, and my part in the ratings chain is over.&quot;

Can I ask a stupid-simple question: When do you actually do the tasting note? 

I ask this at the risk, again, of being branded only anti-ratings. But seriously, in this whole harangue about how you find a pace-setter and come up with the numbers, you refer to the characteristics you find in the wine, but I re-read this post and see nothing about when/how you do the actual description that I, a word guy, care about. 

Based on this, is it correct to assume that the rating actually -- and always -- comes first in your methodology?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, you write: &#8220;At some point, I hand-carry the glass with the wine to my computer, where I fill in the actual score and text into Wine Enthusiast’s database. This is the final act of the tasting process, where everything is confirmed. When I hit the “send” button, the review is transported to the magazine’s server, in New York, and my part in the ratings chain is over.&#8221;</p>
<p>Can I ask a stupid-simple question: When do you actually do the tasting note? </p>
<p>I ask this at the risk, again, of being branded only anti-ratings. But seriously, in this whole harangue about how you find a pace-setter and come up with the numbers, you refer to the characteristics you find in the wine, but I re-read this post and see nothing about when/how you do the actual description that I, a word guy, care about. </p>
<p>Based on this, is it correct to assume that the rating actually &#8212; and always &#8212; comes first in your methodology?</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erika, so true. Alas...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erika, so true. Alas&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do we ask movie reviewers if their impressions are statistically significant?  Do we want to debate the &quot;thumbs up&quot; scoring system?  What about a restaurant reviewer?  Do we want to know what they ate last to see if there is a bias?  Maybe they had spicey food for lunch and now their palate is not in proper shape for a seafood restaurant.  Holy mackeral.

I don&#039;t think Steve or anyone is presenting the reviews as sensory analysis or there would be labs acoss america rating wines, not magazines.
Just having a number there doesn&#039;t make it a quantitative analysis by any means.  They are always just opinions of people with educated palates and I think most people know that.  It is a guide that can be helpful particularly once you know a reviewers preferences. 

I know which movie reviewers I usually agree with and which ones I don&#039;t.  That doesn&#039;t mean that all reviews are worthless.

I think this was helpful and shows the sincere effort taken to sample the wines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do we ask movie reviewers if their impressions are statistically significant?  Do we want to debate the &#8220;thumbs up&#8221; scoring system?  What about a restaurant reviewer?  Do we want to know what they ate last to see if there is a bias?  Maybe they had spicey food for lunch and now their palate is not in proper shape for a seafood restaurant.  Holy mackeral.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Steve or anyone is presenting the reviews as sensory analysis or there would be labs acoss america rating wines, not magazines.<br />
Just having a number there doesn&#8217;t make it a quantitative analysis by any means.  They are always just opinions of people with educated palates and I think most people know that.  It is a guide that can be helpful particularly once you know a reviewers preferences. </p>
<p>I know which movie reviewers I usually agree with and which ones I don&#8217;t.  That doesn&#8217;t mean that all reviews are worthless.</p>
<p>I think this was helpful and shows the sincere effort taken to sample the wines.</p>
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