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		<title>By: Charlie Olken</title>
		<link>http://www.steveheimoff.com/index.php/2009/05/22/friday-fishwrap/comment-page-1/#comment-7231</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie Olken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 00:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are of course right, Steve. And I am guessing that you have no problem with the restriction on geographic names like Champagne, Sauternes, Chianti, Burgundy. I don&#039;t really care one way or the other about Clos, but it seems to me that Chateau is not exclusively a French word. And when it comes to the descroption of technique as opposed to the use of place names, that is where the line should have been drawn.

I am also perfectly happy to see the phrase &quot;Methode Champenoise&quot; discontinued in this country as it has been for some years now for sparkling wine made outside of Champagne. The funny thing, of course, is that long after it was banned in Europe, some of the European-owned houses continued to use it here. The Domaine Chandon website describes their bubblies as having been made by the &quot;Champagne Method&quot; and aged &quot;sur lees&quot;, a bastardization of &quot;sur lie&quot; that sur-ly embarrasses people in both languages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are of course right, Steve. And I am guessing that you have no problem with the restriction on geographic names like Champagne, Sauternes, Chianti, Burgundy. I don&#8217;t really care one way or the other about Clos, but it seems to me that Chateau is not exclusively a French word. And when it comes to the descroption of technique as opposed to the use of place names, that is where the line should have been drawn.</p>
<p>I am also perfectly happy to see the phrase &#8220;Methode Champenoise&#8221; discontinued in this country as it has been for some years now for sparkling wine made outside of Champagne. The funny thing, of course, is that long after it was banned in Europe, some of the European-owned houses continued to use it here. The Domaine Chandon website describes their bubblies as having been made by the &#8220;Champagne Method&#8221; and aged &#8220;sur lees&#8221;, a bastardization of &#8220;sur lie&#8221; that sur-ly embarrasses people in both languages.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://www.steveheimoff.com/index.php/2009/05/22/friday-fishwrap/comment-page-1/#comment-7227</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 23:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be rather like Gordon Brown staking claim to the Anglican words, Port, Sherry, Hock, Rhenish, or Claret.  Bon chance, Euroninnies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be rather like Gordon Brown staking claim to the Anglican words, Port, Sherry, Hock, Rhenish, or Claret.  Bon chance, Euroninnies.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://www.steveheimoff.com/index.php/2009/05/22/friday-fishwrap/comment-page-1/#comment-7219</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 22:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charlie, I guess this is what happens in a world economy where we&#039;re all connected, everyone&#039;s a member of the WTO, and all voices have a say!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie, I guess this is what happens in a world economy where we&#8217;re all connected, everyone&#8217;s a member of the WTO, and all voices have a say!</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie Olken</title>
		<link>http://www.steveheimoff.com/index.php/2009/05/22/friday-fishwrap/comment-page-1/#comment-7182</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie Olken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 03:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am wondering how this deal even got to this point. Who the hell gave Europe rights to words like Chateau which have a meaning in English. As for sur lies, if we are to give up European phrasings that have neither geograhic nor qualitative connotations, then the US negotiators who made this deal three years ago must be the same folks who believed, without proof, that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. 

This is a deal that should never have come into being in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am wondering how this deal even got to this point. Who the hell gave Europe rights to words like Chateau which have a meaning in English. As for sur lies, if we are to give up European phrasings that have neither geograhic nor qualitative connotations, then the US negotiators who made this deal three years ago must be the same folks who believed, without proof, that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. </p>
<p>This is a deal that should never have come into being in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: DeepVine</title>
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		<dc:creator>DeepVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 16:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

Am I the only one that finds this ridiculous?  Do European producers really think they will sell more wine becuase other producers will not be allowed to use the words &quot;sur lie&quot; (which has no geographical connotation whatsoever)?  And let&#039;s face it, it is all about selling wine and protectionism.  An interesting thought... maybe in return they will sign an agreement that they will not use the word &quot;Jeans&quot; unless the garment was produced in the US...  or how about striking out the word &quot;Hamburger&quot; from every menu on the European continent, not to mention the word &quot;weekend&quot; which is used by French people on a regular basis.  What about &quot;Rock and Roll&quot; or &quot;Jazz&quot;... surely they are American terms.  Wake up Europe, it is a global market and you will have to compete on quality and price like everyone else (great lessons from the US car industry if anyone is interested...).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>Am I the only one that finds this ridiculous?  Do European producers really think they will sell more wine becuase other producers will not be allowed to use the words &#8220;sur lie&#8221; (which has no geographical connotation whatsoever)?  And let&#8217;s face it, it is all about selling wine and protectionism.  An interesting thought&#8230; maybe in return they will sign an agreement that they will not use the word &#8220;Jeans&#8221; unless the garment was produced in the US&#8230;  or how about striking out the word &#8220;Hamburger&#8221; from every menu on the European continent, not to mention the word &#8220;weekend&#8221; which is used by French people on a regular basis.  What about &#8220;Rock and Roll&#8221; or &#8220;Jazz&#8221;&#8230; surely they are American terms.  Wake up Europe, it is a global market and you will have to compete on quality and price like everyone else (great lessons from the US car industry if anyone is interested&#8230;).</p>
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