Comments on: Bloggers and wineries: strange bedfellows http://www.steveheimoff.com/index.php/2008/11/26/bloggers-and-wineries-strange-bedfellows/ A blog about the world of wine Wed, 08 Feb 2012 21:13:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.3 By: Beware of Wine Bloggers! | another wine blog http://www.steveheimoff.com/index.php/2008/11/26/bloggers-and-wineries-strange-bedfellows/comment-page-1/#comment-12139 Beware of Wine Bloggers! | another wine blog Fri, 31 Jul 2009 01:17:47 +0000 http://www.steveheimoff.com/?p=1094#comment-12139 [...] since Steve is always either telling people that he is indeed a blogger, or telling other bloggers how they should comport themselves, I was surprised that there was anything he didn’t know about any subject. Perhaps he was [...] [...] since Steve is always either telling people that he is indeed a blogger, or telling other bloggers how they should comport themselves, I was surprised that there was anything he didn’t know about any subject. Perhaps he was [...]

]]> By: mydailywine http://www.steveheimoff.com/index.php/2008/11/26/bloggers-and-wineries-strange-bedfellows/comment-page-1/#comment-1683 mydailywine Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:36:00 +0000 http://www.steveheimoff.com/?p=1094#comment-1683 I love it that WineDiverGirl is attempting to rock the boat. There is no problem to be solved per se, as Steve asked above. But wineries do need to sell their wines and are rightfully looking for innovative solutions, beyond the traditional wine press and 3 tier sales system. I also work in the wine industry, in addition to blogging at MyDailyWine. As a result, I would have made different suggestions than WineDiverGirl and indeed have spent quite a bit of time thinking about this exact issue. But I kind of squirmed when reading Steve's post that was so focused on ripping into WineDiverGirl. The beauty of reading wine blogs for me is that many bloggers are NOT in the industry and as a result can force us industry types to rethink our status quo approach. I love it that WineDiverGirl is attempting to rock the boat.
There is no problem to be solved per se, as Steve asked above.
But wineries do need to sell their wines and are rightfully looking for innovative solutions, beyond the traditional wine press and 3 tier sales system.
I also work in the wine industry, in addition to blogging at MyDailyWine.
As a result, I would have made different suggestions than WineDiverGirl and indeed have spent quite a bit of time thinking about this exact issue.

But I kind of squirmed when reading Steve’s post that was so focused on ripping into WineDiverGirl.

The beauty of reading wine blogs for me is that many bloggers are NOT in the industry and as a result can force us industry types to rethink our status quo approach.

]]> By: Guido from Boston http://www.steveheimoff.com/index.php/2008/11/26/bloggers-and-wineries-strange-bedfellows/comment-page-1/#comment-1669 Guido from Boston Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:52:20 +0000 http://www.steveheimoff.com/?p=1094#comment-1669 steve... a couple of things... I only came across your site recently and I have no idea what the wine blogosphere is like... but it seems to me based on the current posts on her site, WineDiverGirl is more of social media person/marketer than a wine enthusiast? Perhaps she is in the process of writing a book about the rules to having a successful wine blog? who knows... I agree with most of your critic of her post, but I wonder if the part that she is missing is about community... I think that her suggestions don't really make the connection about how blogs and the social network really work and how the connection between the industry and the blog reading community could be improved... it's not the bloggers that that industry is interested in... aren't they more interested in the readers and possibly new drinkers? You are right, if you want to be a pro reviewer you need standards... if you want to market in the "blogosphere" you can take advice about how to make bloggers blog about you... steve…

a couple of things…

I only came across your site recently and I have no idea what the wine blogosphere is like… but it seems to me based on the current posts on her site, WineDiverGirl is more of social media person/marketer than a wine enthusiast? Perhaps she is in the process of writing a book about the rules to having a successful wine blog? who knows…

I agree with most of your critic of her post, but I wonder if the part that she is missing is about community… I think that her suggestions don’t really make the connection about how blogs and the social network really work and how the connection between the industry and the blog reading community could be improved… it’s not the bloggers that that industry is interested in… aren’t they more interested in the readers and possibly new drinkers?

You are right, if you want to be a pro reviewer you need standards… if you want to market in the “blogosphere” you can take advice about how to make bloggers blog about you…

]]> By: steve http://www.steveheimoff.com/index.php/2008/11/26/bloggers-and-wineries-strange-bedfellows/comment-page-1/#comment-1668 steve Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:02:15 +0000 http://www.steveheimoff.com/?p=1094#comment-1668 Alan, at Wine Enthusiast, there is a firewall between advertising and ratings. I should know: I'm the California rater. Advertising has nothing to do with my decisions. Alan, at Wine Enthusiast, there is a firewall between advertising and ratings. I should know: I’m the California rater. Advertising has nothing to do with my decisions.

]]> By: Alan Kropf http://www.steveheimoff.com/index.php/2008/11/26/bloggers-and-wineries-strange-bedfellows/comment-page-1/#comment-1664 Alan Kropf Mon, 01 Dec 2008 07:55:12 +0000 http://www.steveheimoff.com/?p=1094#comment-1664 I applaud WineDiverGirl on her efforts to explore the full potential of bloggers and wineries working together. If want to get your feathers all ruffled about conflict of interest, look at magazines that do wine ratings and accept advertising dollars from the wineries that it rates. Let blogs breathe, let them function, and try and be part of the solution rather than someone who complains about the situation. I applaud WineDiverGirl on her efforts to explore the full potential of bloggers and wineries working together. If want to get your feathers all ruffled about conflict of interest, look at magazines that do wine ratings and accept advertising dollars from the wineries that it rates. Let blogs breathe, let them function, and try and be part of the solution rather than someone who complains about the situation.

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